Need to disable offer from Outlook Express "to free up dis..

Thank you for your response. It is nice to know I can compact manually if I
want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one of
the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue, I
could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.

Keven



"You Know Who ~" wrote in message

> Microsoft went to this because people didn't compact space as they should
> have. You either let things go too long (in which case you should get the
> message) or you have enourmous space requirements (do you keep ALL of your
> emails?). The prudent thing to do is to compact periodically, manually
> before the message screams at you to do something you should have already
> done.
>
> --
> YKW~
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> "Clothes make the man. Naked people have
> little or no influence in society" Mark Twain (1835-1910)
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
>
>> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free
>> up disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>>
>> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
>> integrity of my messages.
>>
>> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
>> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
>> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
>> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
>> annoying pop-ups.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You very much
>>
>>
>>
>> Keven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

[Needless crossposting eliminated. Why didn't you crosspost to an
OE-specific newsgroup, Kevin?]

It can't be disabled, nor would you want to do so.

Compact all OE folders manually on a regular basis and you'll never be
nagged to do so by Automatic Compacting.

Yes, you /do/ need to compact all folders on a regular basis to avoid
corruption (e.g., loss of messages). See
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx

General OE Caveats:

- Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
folders created for this purpose.

- Empty Deleted Items folder daily.

- Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More at
http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm

- WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
automatically compacting your message store.

- Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
--
OE-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)


Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free
> up
> disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>
> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the integrity
> of my messages.
>
> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>
> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
> annoying pop-ups.
>
>
>
> Thank You very much
>
>
>
> Keven
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

Do these caveats also apply to Outlook?
--
Donna

"PA Bear" wrote in message

> [Needless crossposting eliminated. Why didn't you crosspost to an
> OE-specific newsgroup, Kevin?]
>
> It can't be disabled, nor would you want to do so.
>
> Compact all OE folders manually on a regular basis and you'll never be
> nagged to do so by Automatic Compacting.
>
> Yes, you /do/ need to compact all folders on a regular basis to avoid
> corruption (e.g., loss of messages). See
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
>
> General OE Caveats:
>
> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
> folders created for this purpose.
>
> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>
> - Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
> at
> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>
> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
> automatically compacting your message store.
>
> - Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause such
> corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
> --
> OE-specific newsgroup:
> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>
>
> Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
>> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free
>> up
>> disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>>
>> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
>> integrity
>> of my messages.
>>
>> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
>> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
>> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
>> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
>> annoying pop-ups.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You very much
>>
>>
>>
>> Keven
>
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:

> Thank you for your response. It is nice to know I can compact manually if
> I
> want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
> have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one of
> the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue, I
> could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
>
> Keven

The reason it was changed to automatic was that if you do not compact OE
folders on a regular basis (and the setting for the automatic compaction is
having launched OE 100 times - so if you only open it once a day then
automatic compaction is only offered just over every THREE months.....)
there is grave danger of folder corruption.....and there were many posts on
the OE groups complaining about sudden corruption of folders and loss of
data, all due to not compacting on a regular basis.
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

"Gordon" wrote in message

: Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
:
: > Thank you for your response. It is nice to know I can compact manually
if
: > I
: > want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
: > have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one
of
: > the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue,
I
: > could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
: >
: > Keven
:
: The reason it was changed to automatic was that if you do not compact OE
: folders on a regular basis (and the setting for the automatic compaction
is
: having launched OE 100 times - so if you only open it once a day then
: automatic compaction is only offered just over every THREE months.....)
: there is grave danger of folder corruption.....and there were many posts
on
: the OE groups complaining about sudden corruption of folders and loss of
: data, all due to not compacting on a regular basis.

Actually, the Compact Folder Count is not changed until you close OE or
close an Identity by switching Identities.
Each Identity keeps its own Compact Folder Count.
Compacting is only done for the current Identity.
So if you compact before closing OE, you won't get the compaction message.
--
Ronald Sommer
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

I use the following because my computer is on at 1:00AM every morning:

Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to System Tools,
and then click Scheduled Tasks.
Add Scheduled Task

Under the Task tab > Run: , type C:\Tasks\RunTasks.bat
Under the Task tab > Start in: , type C:\Tasks
Under the Task tab > Run as: , your computer name\your account name
(Note: the account name must have a password (not blank), for Scheduled Task
service to run)
Under the Task tab > check the box for "Enabled (scheduled task runs at
specified time)"

Under the Schedule tab > Schedule Task:, enter Daily
Under the Schedule tab > Start time:, enter 1:00AM
Under the Schedule tab > Every:, enter 1
Hit OK and exit .

Open Windows Explorer.
Create the directory Tasks on the C: drive (C:\Tasks)
Use Notepad to create the following .bat files and .reg file in C:\Tasks

----RunTasks.bat----------------------
@ECHO OFF
REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat

----NoCompact.bat-------------------
regedit.exe /s C:\Tasks\NoCompact.reg

----NoCompact.reg-------------------
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{......what ever your idenity
is.........}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0]
"Compact Check Count"=dword:00000000

The above registery change makes sure that the count never gets to 100
(which causes the compress or pop-ups).
The counter is set to zero every night at 1:00AM.
I can compress the email whenever I think about it...which is not to often.


If you do NOT want to run a scheduled task every day, then create a batch
file
that launches Outlook Express.
The batch file also includes the procedure to zero the count.

----LaunchOE.bat-----------------------------
@ECHO OFF
REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
MSIMN.EXE


Create a shortcut from LaunchOE.bat
Drag the shortcut to the desk top.
Use the shortcut to launch OE.

have a nice day,
JE


"Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message

> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free
> up disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>
> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the integrity
> of my messages.
>
> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>
> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
> annoying pop-ups.
>
>
>
> Thank You very much
>
>
>
> Keven
>
>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

Forget the LaunchOE.bat suggestion....it doesn't work.
JE


"Jerry Ed" wrote in message

>I use the following because my computer is on at 1:00AM every morning:
>
> Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to System
> Tools, and then click Scheduled Tasks.
> Add Scheduled Task
>
> Under the Task tab > Run: , type C:\Tasks\RunTasks.bat
> Under the Task tab > Start in: , type C:\Tasks
> Under the Task tab > Run as: , your computer name\your account name
> (Note: the account name must have a password (not blank), for Scheduled
> Task service to run)
> Under the Task tab > check the box for "Enabled (scheduled task runs at
> specified time)"
>
> Under the Schedule tab > Schedule Task:, enter Daily
> Under the Schedule tab > Start time:, enter 1:00AM
> Under the Schedule tab > Every:, enter 1
> Hit OK and exit .
>
> Open Windows Explorer.
> Create the directory Tasks on the C: drive (C:\Tasks)
> Use Notepad to create the following .bat files and .reg file in C:\Tasks
>
> ----RunTasks.bat----------------------
> @ECHO OFF
> REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
> call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
>
> ----NoCompact.bat-------------------
> regedit.exe /s C:\Tasks\NoCompact.reg
>
> ----NoCompact.reg-------------------
> REGEDIT4
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{......what ever your idenity
> is.........}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0]
> "Compact Check Count"=dword:00000000
>
> The above registery change makes sure that the count never gets to 100
> (which causes the compress or pop-ups).
> The counter is set to zero every night at 1:00AM.
> I can compress the email whenever I think about it...which is not to
> often.
>
>
> If you do NOT want to run a scheduled task every day, then create a batch
> file
> that launches Outlook Express.
> The batch file also includes the procedure to zero the count.
>
> ----LaunchOE.bat-----------------------------
> @ECHO OFF
> REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
> call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
> MSIMN.EXE
>
>
> Create a shortcut from LaunchOE.bat
> Drag the shortcut to the desk top.
> Use the shortcut to launch OE.
>
> have a nice day,
> JE
>
>
> "Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
>
>> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free
>> up disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>>
>> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
>> integrity of my messages.
>>
>> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
>> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
>> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
>> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
>> annoying pop-ups.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You very much
>>
>>
>>
>> Keven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

Ron Sommer wrote:
<snip>
> Actually, the Compact Folder Count is not changed until you close OE or
> close an Identity by switching Identities.

OE does not have to be closed nor do you have to switch identities for the
Compact Count to be reset: The Compact Count resets to 0 (zero) when user
manually compacts all OE folders.
--
OE-specific newsgroup:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

No.
--
~PA Bear

Donna Aten wrote:
> Do these caveats also apply to Outlook?
>
> "PA Bear" wrote in message
>
>> [Needless crossposting eliminated. Why didn't you crosspost to an
>> OE-specific newsgroup, Kevin?]
>>
>> It can't be disabled, nor would you want to do so.
>>
>> Compact all OE folders manually on a regular basis and you'll never be
>> nagged to do so by Automatic Compacting.
>>
>> Yes, you /do/ need to compact all folders on a regular basis to avoid
>> corruption (e.g., loss of messages). See
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/IE/community/columns/filecorruption.mspx
>>
>> General OE Caveats:
>>
>> - Don't use Inbox or Sent Items to archive messages. Move them to local
>> folders created for this purpose.
>>
>> - Empty Deleted Items folder daily.
>>
>> - Disable Background Compacting [not available in SP2] and frequently
>> perform a manual compact of all OE folders while "working offline". More
>> at
>> http://www.insideoe.com/files/maintain.htm
>>
>> - WinXP SP2 only: Do not shut down your machine while Windows is
>> automatically compacting your message store.
>>
>> - Your anti-virus application's email scanning feature can also cause
>> such
>> corruption. Disable it. It provides no additional protection.
>> --
>> OE-specific newsgroup:
>> news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
>>
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>
>>
>> Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
>>> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to
>>> free
>>> up
>>> disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>>>
>>> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
>>> integrity
>>> of my messages.
>>>
>>> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
>>> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
>>> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
>>> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>>>
>>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
>>> annoying pop-ups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You very much
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keven
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

> ...I could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.

It's not a problem, it's behavior you dislike.

If you want to risk corruption of your OE store (possible loss of some or
all of your messages) and run a much-less secure version of OE, go right
ahead and do that, Keven/Kevin. You'd be cutting off your nose to spite
your face IMHO.
--
~PA Bear

Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
> Thank you for your response. It is nice to know I can compact manually if
> I
> want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
> have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one of
> the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue, I
> could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
>
> Keven
>
>
>
> "You Know Who ~" wrote in message
>
>> Microsoft went to this because people didn't compact space as they should
>> have. You either let things go too long (in which case you should get
>> the
>> message) or you have enourmous space requirements (do you keep ALL of
>> your
>> emails?). The prudent thing to do is to compact periodically, manually
>> before the message screams at you to do something you should have already
>> done.
>>
>> --
>> YKW~
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> "Clothes make the man. Naked people have
>> little or no influence in society" Mark Twain (1835-1910)
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> "Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
>>
>>> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to
>>> free
>>> up disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>>>
>>> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
>>> integrity of my messages.
>>>
>>> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
>>> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
>>> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
>>> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>>>
>>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
>>> annoying pop-ups.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You very much
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Keven
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

You have to use:
start C:\Progra~1\Outloo~1\MSIMN.EXE


"Jerry Ed" wrote in message

>I use the following because my computer is on at 1:00AM every morning:
>
> Click Start, point to Programs, point to Accessories, point to System
> Tools, and then click Scheduled Tasks.
> Add Scheduled Task
>
> Under the Task tab > Run: , type C:\Tasks\RunTasks.bat
> Under the Task tab > Start in: , type C:\Tasks
> Under the Task tab > Run as: , your computer name\your account name
> (Note: the account name must have a password (not blank), for Scheduled
> Task service to run)
> Under the Task tab > check the box for "Enabled (scheduled task runs at
> specified time)"
>
> Under the Schedule tab > Schedule Task:, enter Daily
> Under the Schedule tab > Start time:, enter 1:00AM
> Under the Schedule tab > Every:, enter 1
> Hit OK and exit .
>
> Open Windows Explorer.
> Create the directory Tasks on the C: drive (C:\Tasks)
> Use Notepad to create the following .bat files and .reg file in C:\Tasks
>
> ----RunTasks.bat----------------------
> @ECHO OFF
> REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
> call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
>
> ----NoCompact.bat-------------------
> regedit.exe /s C:\Tasks\NoCompact.reg
>
> ----NoCompact.reg-------------------
> REGEDIT4
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Identities\{......what ever your idenity
> is.........}\Software\Microsoft\Outlook Express\5.0]
> "Compact Check Count"=dword:00000000
>
> The above registery change makes sure that the count never gets to 100
> (which causes the compress or pop-ups).
> The counter is set to zero every night at 1:00AM.
> I can compress the email whenever I think about it...which is not to
> often.
>
>
> If you do NOT want to run a scheduled task every day, then create a batch
> file
> that launches Outlook Express.
> The batch file also includes the procedure to zero the count.
>
> ----LaunchOE.bat-----------------------------
> @ECHO OFF
> REM ---------change registry so email wont compress---
> call C:\Tasks\NoCompact.bat
> MSIMN.EXE
>
>
> Create a shortcut from LaunchOE.bat
> Drag the shortcut to the desk top.
> Use the shortcut to launch OE.
>
> have a nice day,
> JE
>
>
> "Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
>
>> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to free
>> up disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>>
>> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
>> integrity of my messages.
>>
>> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs like
>> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do. I
>> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give me
>> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>>
>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop these
>> annoying pop-ups.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You very much
>>
>>
>>
>> Keven
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

My reply was to this statement:
the setting for the automatic compaction is having launched OE 100 times .

The Compact Folder Count will only be reset for the current Identity when
you do a compaction.
--
Ronald Sommer

"PA Bear" wrote in message

: Ron Sommer wrote:
: <snip>
: > Actually, the Compact Folder Count is not changed until you close OE or
: > close an Identity by switching Identities.
:
: OE does not have to be closed nor do you have to switch identities for the
: Compact Count to be reset: The Compact Count resets to 0 (zero) when user
: manually compacts all OE folders.
: --
: OE-specific newsgroup:
: news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.outlookexpress.general
:
: ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
: MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
:
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis.. 

It is my understanding that the only way I would risk corruption is if I
wait too long between compacting OE messages. If I never compact OE at all,
I have no risk of corruption.

That is exactly what I would like to do.. Never compact my messages. I wish
to never risk my messages at all. I have plenty of HD space and I am not
worried about the space requirements, I simply want to have a choice.

Are you guys going to keep hekling me or does someone have an anwer to my
question

Keven


"PA Bear" wrote in message

>> ...I could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
>
> It's not a problem, it's behavior you dislike.
>
> If you want to risk corruption of your OE store (possible loss of some or
> all of your messages) and run a much-less secure version of OE, go right
> ahead and do that, Keven/Kevin. You'd be cutting off your nose to spite
> your face IMHO.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
> Kevin J. Nielsen wrote:
>> Thank you for your response. It is nice to know I can compact manually
>> if I
>> want to. However, I would still like the decision to be mine. I wish to
>> have a choice but Microsoft gives me no choice. I guess it was in one of
>> the updates I received from Microsoft. Thank you, that gives me a clue,
>> I
>> could start uninstalling the updates until the problem goes away.
>>
>> Keven
>>
>>
>>
>> "You Know Who ~" wrote in message
>>
>>> Microsoft went to this because people didn't compact space as they
>>> should
>>> have. You either let things go too long (in which case you should get
>>> the
>>> message) or you have enourmous space requirements (do you keep ALL of
>>> your
>>> emails?). The prudent thing to do is to compact periodically, manually
>>> before the message screams at you to do something you should have
>>> already
>>> done.
>>>
>>> --
>>> YKW~
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Clothes make the man. Naked people have
>>> little or no influence in society" Mark Twain (1835-1910)
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kevin J. Nielsen" wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Every time I close Outlook Express, I get the following message: "to
>>>> free
>>>> up disk space, outlook express can compact messages."
>>>>
>>>> I have read about this and I understand it does not diminish the
>>>> integrity of my messages.
>>>>
>>>> However, the problem I have is that I cannot stand it when programs
>>>> like
>>>> this keep bugging me relentlessly until I do what they want me to do.
>>>> I
>>>> want to have the choice to say yes or no. This program does not give
>>>> me
>>>> that choice because it keeps bugging me until it gets its way.
>>>>
>>>> I would greatly appreciate it if someone could tell me how to stop
>>>> these
>>>> annoying pop-ups.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank You very much
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Keven
>
 >> Stay informed about: Need to disable offer from Outlook Express ""to free up dis..